Reading your two saw settings
A compound miter saw has two independent adjustments, and crown molding usually needs both:
- Miter angle — how far the saw’s turntable swings left or right from square (0°).
- Bevel angle — how far the blade tilts away from vertical (0°).
The settings depend on three things: your molding’s spring angle, the corner angle of the wall, and which method you use to hold the molding while cutting.
Spring angle: the number that changes everything
The spring angle is the angle between the flat back of the molding and the wall once it’s installed. Stock molding is almost always one of two profiles — 38° (labelled 52/38) or 45° (labelled 45/45) — and the figure is often stamped on the back edge. Using 38° settings on a 45° molding (or the reverse) opens gaps that you cannot sand away, so confirm it before you cut. If you’re unsure, stand an offcut in its installed position against a framing square and read the angle off the wall side with a protractor or digital angle finder.
The two cutting methods
Nested (upright): the molding sits upside-down against the fence, tilted at its spring angle, the way it will hang on the wall. Because the spring angle is already “built in” by that position, you only set a miter — bevel stays at zero. It’s the simplest to remember (a 90° corner is just 45°), but you must hold the piece at exactly the spring angle every cut, which usually means a stop block or crown jig, and the molding has to fit within the saw’s height capacity.
Flat on the table: the molding lies flat, face up. Now the saw has to recreate the spring angle itself, so you set both a miter and a bevel — a true compound cut. The payoff is that the piece is fully supported and the cuts are repeatable, and you can cut wide molding that would never fit nested. This is the method most calculators give numbers for.
Inside vs outside corners
The angles are the same for an inside and an outside corner of the same opening; what changes is orientation — which side of the cut becomes the long point, and which way you swing the saw. On an inside corner the visible face is the short side of the cut; on an outside corner it’s the long side. The calculator spells out the left-piece and right-piece setup for whichever you pick. For inside corners, many trim carpenters skip the miter entirely and cope the joint instead — see the FAQ.
The math (for the curious)
For the flat-on-table method, with spring angle S measured off the wall and corner angle C between the two walls:
miter = arctan( sin S ÷ tan(C ÷ 2) )
bevel = arcsin( cos S × cos(C ÷ 2) )
The bevel term uses cos(C÷2). A lot of online calculators use sin(C÷2), which happens to give the right answer at exactly 90° but drifts off as soon as the corner isn’t square — so they quietly fail on octagons, bay windows and vaulted ceilings. This one uses the correct form, which is why the octagon and hexagon rows below come out right. For the nested method the spring angle is handled by the molding’s position, so the miter is simply (180° − C) ÷ 2 with no bevel.
Standard angle chart (flat-on-table, inside corner)
| Corner | Spring | Miter | Bevel |
|---|---|---|---|
| 90° (square) | 38° (52/38) | 31.6° | 33.9° |
| 90° (square) | 45° (45/45) | 35.3° | 30.0° |
| 90° (square) | 52° (38/52) | 38.2° | 25.8° |
| 135° (octagon) | 38° (52/38) | 14.3° | 17.6° |
| 135° (octagon) | 45° (45/45) | 16.3° | 15.7° |
| 120° (hexagon) | 38° (52/38) | 19.6° | 23.2° |
| 120° (hexagon) | 45° (45/45) | 22.2° | 20.7° |
For a nested cut, the miter on a 90° corner is 45°, on a 135° octagon corner it’s 22.5°, and on a 120° hexagon corner it’s 30° — with the bevel always at zero. Enter your own numbers above for anything in between.
Before you cut the good stuff
- Measure the real corner. Walls are rarely a true 90°; a digital angle finder costs little and saves a lot of molding.
- Cut a short scrap test pair at your settings and dry-fit them in the corner first.
- Mark which edge sits against the wall and which against the ceiling before the piece leaves your hand — orientation mistakes cause more wasted molding than the angle math does.
- Cut pieces a touch long and creep up on the fit; you can shave a hair off a long point, but you can’t add it back.